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Since my Scale
Reproductions web site first appeared on the web in 1996 I have
received many questions about ships in bottles. Here are a
few of them with my answers. I will update this page
occasionally as I receive more. Clicking on the following questions
will take you to the answers. Last update 1 November 1999.
What kind of tool do you use to place the putty?
Have you seen any World War I ships in bottles?
Is there an American ships in bottle association?
Researching ships in bottles for a school project?
How much is a print I have of the Thomas W. Lawson worth?
Where
can I get plans for a sardine carrier?
Where can I obtain plans for Canada's 1877 America's
Cup challenger?
Where can I have an old ship in a bottle appraised?
How
difficult would it be to put an aircraft in a bottle?
What
other sea materials have you used?
Where
can I find a photo of this ship?
What materials do you use for sails?
Is
the USS Corry in a bottle a kit?
Can you tell me how to repair a ship with a broken bottle?
What , and where, is the oldest ship in a bottle?
Where can I find plans for ships in bottles?
Where can I find plans for a Tribal Class destroyer?
Can you tell me how to get the ship inside the light bulb?
What is the name of the hobby of putting a ship in a
bottle?
What material do you use for your hulls?
Question
Where can I obtain plans for the Reliance?
The reason for my writing is my wife works for the RELIANCE Insurance company. They have a beautiful painting of the 1903 Reliance. I'd love to put her in a vertical bottle and set her on my wife's desk. While browsing your site I noticed, in your questions and answers the mention of the Reliance. I've been looking for plans of her for about a year. Would you have plans of her? I would like both a plan view and an elevation plan, any scale.
- Maurice Cornelis, South Jersey, USA
Answer
Maurice,
I have quite a file that I've collected
on Reliance over the years, photos, drawings (but not however complete
plans). As these are all photocopies from various books none of them
will reproduce very well a second time around. However, I'll be very
happy to pass along the sources for the material and I would be very
surprised if you are unable to build a very fine ship in a bottle from
them! Your local library should have the books, if not you might be
able to bring them in on inter-library loan - ask your librarian.
The first book is "The Racing Yachts"
in the Time-Life Seafarer's series. This has a fine set of drawings in
color (large scale, across two pages) of Reliance by John Batchelor. (
Deck plan, longitudinal CL section, midship cross-section at mast, sail
plan.) Should be able to build a beautiful model from that alone.
The Second book is "An Introduction
to Yachting" by L. Francis Herreshoff - this has 4 fine, large
photos: 2 showing the underbody of the yacht and 2 showing it under
sail.
Question
Have you seen any World War I ships in bottles?
A relative has a ship in a bottle made by a German prisoner of war in Amherst, Nova Scotia, 1919. It is a three masted schooner with the German flag and has a background of tiny wooden houses, trees and lighthouse embedded in some type of claylike substance on the inside of the bottle. It is inscribed with the name of the prisoner, place, date and the name of the person who it was made for on a little plaque inside the bottle.
Have you ever seen or know of
anything like this? Are these quite
common as collectibles?
- Carolyn Oxner, Halifax, Nova Scotia
Answer
Carolyn,
With regards to your POW-built ship in a
bottle, I can't say how common they are, but yours is the second Nova
Scotian-built POW ship dating from WWI that I am aware of. The first
one (which I refer to on my History Page) was built (according to the
records at the National Museum in Ottawa - which has the ship in their
collection) at Fortress Louisberg which was used as a WWI POW camp. It
appears that this is the oldest ship in their collection and it is
possible (based on the descriptions) that they may have been built by
the same man - however not having seen photos of either I can't say.
According to the description in the NM's records the ship is described as "ANTIQUE SHIP WITH RIGGING INSIDE A BOTTLE; ALSO SMALL VILLAGE ON HILLSIDE BY SEA INSIDE BOTTLE; CORK GLUED INTO NECK OF BOTTLE; BOTTLE IS HAND BLOWN GLASS. MADE BY POW IN FORT LOUISBURG 1914-1918. Catalogue Number 28-4-238" (I just searched the NM's very incomplete on-line database but none of their ships have been added to it yet. - I've been checking it for the last year waiting for them to add those ships!)
Ships in bottles appear to have been a pastime followed by POWs since they had ample time on their hands - especially those in the merchant marine or naval service. I have read of at least four that came out of the WWII POW Camp No70 at Ripples N.B. (1939-42) (mostly German Merchant Navy there) and they are, or were, the prized posessions of ex-guards.
Recently, four more WWII bottles turned up for sale on eBay: One from a camp in Jamaica; One from a camp in Ontario; and two from a camp in Alberta (both these, I think - based on their design - made by the same man). So if you are interested in collecting one or two, you might eventually find one again on eBay - though beware that there are many mass-produced Asian ships being sold there too.
In addition, Susan Jones (see my links page) on her folk art in bottles website displays a German steamship in a bottle flying a swastika flag. The bottle appears American or at least North American in design and I am positive that this is another example of a POW bottle - though Susan seems a little reluctant to jump to that conclusion.
If there are other Nova Scotian POW ships out there, I haven't heard of them. Emails to the Maritime Museum of the Atlantic in Halifax asking if they had any ships in bottles and the approximate age of them have gone unanswered.
I' ve completed 12 ships in bottles
and the worst part is trying to put the sea in the bottle. Is there any
tool that can be used to do this job quickly? I've tried to make my own
tools, but everything that I try is messy. I am using a glazing putty
(oil based) with oil paint. From cut off wooded spoons to a make shift
metal gadget on a coat hanger, it seems that the putty sticks to each
tool and is messy. I wonder if a teflon coated tool would work. Seems
like there should be an easier way. I would appreciate any ideas.
Thanks.
-Ed Stroz, New Jersey
Answer
Ed,
Well, I agree that it's difficult. Very
difficult in fact. :) When I started, I used a scoop made from a split
section of a CO2 cartridge soldiered onto a length of wire - but you're
right, it stuck horribly. I found that if the putty was cold (ever try
putting it in the fridge?) it worked better. Of course you have to keep
the tool clean. Putty tends to stick to putty. Don't think Teflon would
help much as in my experience, putty seems to stick to just about
anything.
Since then I've graduated to a simple tool that I designed to avoid the sticking problem by reducing the surface area of the tool. In layout it is something like the twisted wire handle of a fly swatter. Directions for making this are:
Take 2+ feet of good stiff wire (I used 3mm high tensile steel wire.), bend it in the middle around a length of 5-6mm steel rod held upright in the vise, into a long "U" with parallel sides. Now clamp the first 75mm of the bottom of the "U" sideways in the vise. Grab the loose wire at the very ends in a pair of self-locking pliers (Vise Grips) and twist until you have a solid spiral of twisted wire. It will end up rather crooked so straighten by tapping with a hammer over an anvil or block of wood and mount in a short length of 12mm wood dowel for a handle.
In practice, slice the putty into 12mm strips, lay it on the "stretcher" part, slide it through the neck, turn the tool over, and dump, shake or jar the putty off. Speed and the cleanliness of the tool help here, but it does work quite nicely. I also bend the tip of the tool downward at a 60 degree angle and use this to tamp the putty in place (before tooling up the waves) with light up and down tapping motions.
Greetings from a few thousand miles
away David!
1) Do you laminate any of your masts when making them, ie laminated
maple etc or do you stick to the common toothpick?
2) Some models I've viewed are mounted on a stand inside the bottle
requiring no putty or sea, please share your experience. (So great to
see some other South Africans have been on your site) Regards,
- Graeme Keehn, Somerset West, South Africa
Answer
Graeme,
Greetings in return from Canada!
I do not laminate masts, or at least have
not laminated them yet. As for the toothpicks, I used ones made of
maple or birch on the first few ships I built but soon found that the
material was not strong enough. So I moved on to bamboo which easily
handles sizes 0.25mm in diameter and smaller. I use the 12" long bamboo
skewers that can be found around here in packages of 100 for $1 as the
raw material and size and shape my masts and spars out of these. So
far, at small scales, bamboo is the only material I've found that will
stand up to the rough treatment of bottling.
As for your second question. Regret no
experience yet, since my aim is always been to produce an "active"
rather than a "static" model: To capture a sailing ship under sail
beating to the windward, or a container ship plowing through the seas.
So sorry, I can't help you there.
"Is there a Bottle Ship Society
anywhere in the USA?..... Being from the midwest - with land as far as
one can see in any direction - a hobby of doing ships in a bottle would
be quite a feat without a class or supervision.... Are there simple
kits for ships in the bottle that maybe would be better since doing it
the way you do are for the more talented?"
- Donna Simard, Somewhere in the midwest.
Answer
Donna,
You asked:
1. "Is there a Bottle Ship
Society anywhere in the USA?"
Yes, there is, George D. Villiers-Furze
is the Membership Chairman. They don't have a web presence that I'm
aware of but their postal address is:
THE
SHIPS IN BOTTLES ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA
Don Hubbard
P.O. Box
16205, San Francisco, CA, USA 94116-0205. His e-mail is gdvf@msn.com
2. [do] You think that a hobby
of doing ships in a bottle would be quite a feat without a class or
supervision?
No, I don't. If you can get your hands on
a copy of Don Hubbard's book you should be able to teach yourself. I
did. All you need is a bit of patience and normal dexterity.
3. Are there simple kits for ships
in the bottle that maybe would be better since doing it the way you do
are for the more talented?
There are kits available, fancy laser-cut
ones are anywhere up to $100, others cheaper. Often you can find
(older) kits listed on ebay.com for a whole lot less. But
personally, I'd avoid the 1970's versions with the plastic bottles that
have a removable bottom. Takes all the mystique out of it! But then why
do you need a kit? The general principles are all laid out in Don's
book (details of the book will be found below.
If you couldn't build a simple pilot boat from his instructions in less
than 25 hours - I'd be very surprised. The book's worth the expense if
you're serious - and cheaper that any course.
"I am an elementary school teacher
who works with gifted children. One of my girls is trying to research
"how to build a ship in a bottle" without much luck. Do you have any
suggestions as to where she should look for information? Thanks,
-
Susan Laskey, Cheshire, Ct.
Answer
Susan,
How to research ships in bottles... Well,
I've been doing that for 15+ years now, and I agree there is not much
out there... Anyway here are a few suggestions:
One suggestion is to see if the local
public library has a book on building ships in bottles. Common books to
look for are:
SAILING IN GLASS by Joop van
Schoulten
SHIPS IN BOTTLES by Donald Hubbard
(The best of all the books that I've seen. If your student has any
thought of bottling her own ship this is the book she should look for.)
MODELLING SHIPS IN BOTTLES by Jack
Needham
There are others but these are the ones you are most likely to find in
a library. All are still in print. Under the Dewey system they are
usually catalogued near 623 or 745 - depending, I guess, on the whim of
the librarian?
Another source is ( if your school has
back issues of National Geographic World) you will find a
4-page article (mostly photos) on Maine bottler Gil Charboneau in the
Feb 1991 issue. As far as I know that is the most recent article on the
subject in the mainstream press. Before that, the last article on ships
in bottles was in the now defunct Oceans magazine (Jan/Feb
1983). Unfortunately, ships in bottles have never been a very popular
magazine topic.
Then, if she wants to know some history,
why not print out my history page? That should give her something to
start with.
Another suggestion, if she has questions,
is to have you e-mail them up to me for her and I'll try to answer them
and send the answers back to you.
And finally, I am currently working on a
model of the seven-masted schooner Thomas W. Lawson. As I'm going
along, I'm taking step by step photos for the client with a CCD camera.
When I'm finished, in a week or two, if your student is interested,
I'll post the photos to an temporary page on my website and send you
the url. The Lawson is not the simplest vessel in the world (two
masters are FAR, FAR easier!), but it does show the process
step-by-step.
So there you go. Hope this helps
"My grandfather gave me an old
print that was his fathers. It is of the
Thomas W. Lawson and had an inscription on the bottom about the
ship. Do you have any idea how much it is worth or who might have
made it? There is no signature on it. Thanks!"
-
Scott Sanders, Somewhere, U.S.A.
Answer
Scott,
Unfortunately I am not an expert on
prints - far from it! So I can give you no idea as to its value or even
who might have made it.
However the value will be determined by
supply and demand - i.e. how many copies were printed, how many copies
remain, and how many people are after this particular print. Also the
condition of the print itself (tears, scratches, creases etc.). A
respectable dealer would be able to peg a price on it, but I certainly
can't.
As to who made it, I think it unlikely
that the printer did not leave some sort of name, or mark on it. Look
in the margin for words like "A&E Litho, Ltd." or words to that
effect. Usually these words are in small unobtrusive type and you can
easily overlook them. Once you find the name, a bit of research at the
library should turn up the printer's address and particulars.
As you realize, this print will certainly
date some time after 1902 when the Lawson was launched. Any
possibility it was on a calendar?
Question PLANS
FOR SARDINE CARRIER
"Do you build any other type of
models. IE scale models. I am from
Saint John andI liked your site... I am looking for a set of plans for
a typical sardine carrier."
.
-
Mike Powell, Saint John, N.B., Canada
Answer
Mike,
So far, beyond the inevitable plastic
ones in my teens, the only models (other than several large
architectural ones) are a three foot, 1/6th scale framing model of a
Cape Cod catboat that I once planned to build and a layered builder's
half model, 1/32 scale, of the 1815 US revenue cutter Alert.
I checked my research files. According to
notes I have, the only plans I know of for a sardine carrier are
printed in a back issue of Woodenboat, (May/June 1997, pp. 99 -
102). They are for the carrier Grayling out of Eastport, Maine
but the ship appears very similar to local carriers. The article
includes a full set of plans (lines as well as dimensions) and a color
elevation drawing. If the NBCC library doesn't have this magazine, the
Saint John Regional Library at Market Square has back issues upstairs
in Reference which you can photocopy and work from there.
There is also a 1952 photo of the Sardine
Carrier Brunswick Maid (owned by Conner's Brothers) tied up at
Market Slip in the Evening Times Globe newspaper for March 22, 1993.
It's a very good reference photo and the lines appear very close to Greyling.
Question PLANS
FOR AMERICA'S CUP CHALLENGER COUNTESS OF DUFFERIN
" I am interested and have started
a few s-i-bs. I was wondering if you had any intentions of doing any or
all of the America's Cup racing yachts. I personally am interested in
the Madeleine or Madeline and her challenger the
Canadian Countess of Dufferin but am having immense trouble
locating accurate scale plans. In particular, deck fittings and gear
and an accurate color scheme. I've been told Black above the boot top
with green hull. I'm not convinced the "green" is not oxidation but
can't find a definite answer either way. Do you have any definite
answers to the above? Any and all info would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you for your attention.
-
Kevin Lawson, Indiana, U.S.A.
Answer
Kevin,
I've been gathering material on several
Cup challengers and contenders. (I've had plans in the works for a long
time of recreating a couple of the races inside a large bottle - Maybe Shamrock
III vs. Reliance) but regret I have no material on the Countess
of Dufferin . A few suggestions:
I believe the Countess of Dufferin was
built in Upper Canada which places it outside of the local building
area I am familiar with. As for her particulars have you checked the
on-line Canadian Ships Information Database? http://daryl.chin.gc.ca:8000/basisbwdocs/sid/title1e.html
It should be there. Sometimes they also give references as to where the
material on the ship came from - which might give you a starting point.
As you say the problem is decent plans. I
doubt very much you are going to find accurate scale plans of the Countess
of Dufferin. Canada, unfortunately, has yet to produce a historian
of the caliber of Howard Chapelle. Usually all I've seen of most of the
early Cup yachts are photos and some mediocre sketch sail and lines
plans. In cases like this I have to resort to digging up photos,
illustrations and dimensions in the libraries and archives, and
drafting my own. As for photos, 1877 is a bit early to expect a good
one. Can you get your hands on a roll of microfilm (through your
library) for the Illustrated London News for that year? Or some other
illustrated magazine like Harper's Weekly? They might have
illustrations of the race and/or the ships. They were using beautiful
etchings back then and some of them are very detailed.
Might also be worth a bit of research to
see if there has been a book written on Canada's challengers. You can
glean a lot from reading a book. You won't be likely to find plans in
it, however. They are usually too expensive for publishers to re-draw -
unless the author does them. You could also drop The Hobby Center in
Ottawa a line and see if the Vanguard Plans Series has a set, or if
they know of where you can get a set (see below,
Tribal Class Destroyer). Chancy, I know, but still worth an e-mail.
To bad it wasn't a naval ship. Easier to trace.
I just checked amazon.com and found the
following:
America's Cup Yacht Designs,
1851-1986 by François Chevalier
No outline of the book, but from the
title, it looks promising. They say it's out of print - but you might
be able to find a copy in your local library or bring it in on
Inter-Library Loan - ask your librarian.
As for the deck fittings, if you can't
find plans, they will have to be gleaned from photos or paintings.
Fittings for the era would be very simple. America is well
documented. Should be able to use data from her as a rough guide.
Things didn't change much in those days with regard to fittings either.
And as for hull color. Green was a common hull color in the latter half
of the eighteenth century so it might have been paint, too (unless you
know for sure it had a coppered hull). If you can find a painting of
her that should give it to you.
UPDATE 1/11/99:
"I found your site while searching for
information on the Countess of Dufferin. I am the great Grandson of
Major Charles Gifford who was the owner of the vessel. I was
particularly interested in your "question" section and the note from
David Lawson who was looking for plans for the Countess. I, too, would
love to get the plans, and for that matter, any other information on
the 1st Canadian Challenger for the Cup.
I was wondering if you had the e-mail
address for Mr. Lawson so that I could follow up with him. I have some
information about the Countess along with a photograph and some sources
of historical interest."
-
Walter Gifford, Ottawa, Canada
I have forwarded your e-mail to Kevin
Lawson in case he is interested in corresponding directly with you.
Last I heard he had not yet found plans but in my latest to him back in
March I was able to tell him that I had found an undated and uncredited
photo of a model of the ship in an old c.1920 book on the history of
the America's Cup.
Since you live in Ontario you might try
finding out where the archives from the Collingwood shipyards ended up
- as that is where the ship was built. Collingwood public library might
be able to give you a steer on that. National Archives might also be a
source, but I've never dealt with them so I can't advise you there. Too
bad you grandfather didn't have an attic or an old trunk? Never know
what you might find...
" My wife and I are in possession
of the bottleship named Shamrock. According to the History the
ship belonged to the Lipton Family in England. In the background there
is a waterfront that looks like Seattle. The bottleship is dated around
1901. We have tried to have this bottleship appraised for insurance
but appraisers in Calgary are not familiar with bottleships. Maybe you
can advise us of an appraiser in Canada or even you might be able to
tell us the value. Thank you
-
Maurice, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Answer
Maurice,
Ships in bottles are notoriously hard to
appraise. So much depends on supply and demand - i.e. who wants the
ship and how much they are willing to pay. In addition the condition,
workmanship, design, and age of the ship all play a part.
By the way, if you are serious about
getting it appraised you'll need very good photographs that you can
submit to the appraiser (either via e-mail or mail) as well as a
description of the ship (size, any damage, bottle size, bottle
description, bottle markings, etc.)
Photography is easy. Most of the photos
on my website were shot with a standard 35mm camera. We shot them
outside on a cloudless day in the full sun near noon hour. All you have
to watch is that the bottle is clean and that you angle your camera so
you don’t get too much reflection. A tripod also helps.
Unfortunately, I'm afraid that many
appraisals seem low to me. And, as it is usually the dealers who do the
appraising, one sometimes wonders if they are looking after their own
interests - i.e. If you want to sell it, this is what I'll give you. I
contacted a friend of mine who is a collector and asked if she could
recommend someone but the only one she trusted enough to ask, told her
that they didn't do appraisals.
Other than that, I don't know what to
suggest. I doubt very much that a museum would want to become involved
in appraising. But then, they must have to appraise items when they
send them out with traveling exhibits. I wonder who they use? I suppose
there's no harm in asking. What about e-mailing the National Museum in
Ottawa? http://www.cmcc.muse.digital.ca/cmcchome.html
will get you their home page.
Answer
Joe,
So far, I've only heard of two people who
bottle aircraft - and they both use (or used, not sure if the math
teacher is still around) commercial plastic kits. One was Don Ryder, a
ex WWII pilot and math teacher in Georgia. He built 1/72 Revell WWI
aircraft and had a whole squadron of them in big upright Gallo bottles.
There was a news item on Don in an old 1970's Popular Mechanics with
two photos of him and his creations.
The other aircraft bottler is Ari
Krupnik in Israel. He has a
website with several
aircraft in bottles on it. Unfortunately, the detail does not show up
in the photos.
The closest I came to building an
aircraft was a planned model of the shuttle Enterprise in a
large light bulb. As the series never got built, I only went as far as
laying the ground in the bulb for the shuttle.
Answer
David,
Joburg, eh? Greetings from Canada!
Well, as I said I can only recommend
putty! Traditional materials are putty, plaster of Paris, plasticene,
and carved wood - laid in strips and glued to the glass. The ones I've
tried are:
1. Auto body filler, tinted with
artist's oil color. I sweat buckets with that stuff. Big mess - see my
four-masted schooner for a description.
2. Unical, a veneer plaster used
in the building industry, tinted with dye. It fractures from the glass
and doesn't adhere. Cracks and otherwise breaks up. And the condensing
water streaks the glass. I used this for the HMS Grasshopper in
a light bulb and laid a layer of putty over the top. Problem is I had
to take the end off the bulb a few years later and epoxy the Unical to
the glass so it wouldn't move (It was sliding all over the place!).
3. Plaster of Paris. Similar to
Unical. Personally, I don't know how the old-timers used this stuff
with any success.
4. Pre-mixed drywall crackfill.
Better than 2 or 3 but still has the same problems.
5. Latex caulking. Very, very messy.
The bottle neck was a mess. Skims over fast, but a long drying time
when it's deep. Never did figure out how to tint it.
6. PL400 Flooring Adhesive (a
special tube-packed adhesive used to glue plywood to floor joists).
Dark honey-colored. Didn't bother trying it in a bottle. Just on a
sheet of glass. Dries fast and hard. But won't stick to glass.
Fractures off when it's dry.
So take your pick! As you can see there
hasn't been much success. And only the auto body filler and the Unical
ever had a ship put in it. Never used plasticene. Problem I've always
had with it is that is just what it looks like. Plasticene. You can
spot it a mile away - even in photos. The tooling qualities are
horrible.
As far as I am concerned putty is worth
the wait as it has such superior tooling qualities - far above all the
other materials (discounting the other problems with them). And when
you have something that works well, why change? Drying time can be sped
up by forcing air through the bottle with a small compressor. Or,
alternatively placing the bottle outside on sunny days with the wind
blowing across the neck. Sometimes with this method you can get the sea
dry enough to build the ship on in under 3 weeks. But there are still
variables and I wouldn't want to ship a completed bottle anywhere in
under 4 weeks. The putty has an annoying habit of sliding around the
bottle before this time if the ship is not kept perfectly upright.
Hope this helps. If it doesn't,
experiment! :) And if you have success with something else, let me
know. I wonder if any of the new oven-cured acrylic sculpting compounds
that craft people use for dolls heads would work? i.e. Sculpey? Problem
is, will it adhere to glass? And what are the tooling qualities like?
Afraid I've had no experience with them and don't know anyone who has. Comments anyone?
UPDATE 18/4/99 One supplier,
when contacted concerning Sculpey replied:
"Thank you for your inquiry... The
Sculpey adheres fairly well to shaped glass by means of a
vacuum when it is baked with the glass. There is slight shrinkage,
almost 1%, when it is baked which creates this vacuum. The alternative
for
adhering the Sculpey is a super glue gel or a silicon glue. One of
these types of glues would work well. The tooling properties of Sculpey
are also quite good. Sculpey is actually recommended to art students at
a local college. Once baked, Sculpey can also be carved, sanded and
drilled."
-
Mike Symons, Customer Service, Lee
Valley Tools
UPDATE 14/5/99 Rolie Muise, a
ship bottler in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia sends this regarding Sculpey:
"I use Sculpey for the ocean and I
have found that while it takes texturing well, if it is scratched while
inserting the ship, it leaves a whitish mark. It is ,I found, necessary
to seal with a clear acrylic sealer and then paint with Prussian blue
acrylic paint. Since the Sculpey does NOT adhere to the glass, I first
place a bit of 5 minute epoxy on the glass and then a good size piece
of Sculpey on the epoxy. I continue to build up to the level of sea I
want. And then into the oven. The epoxy doesn’t seem to be affected by
the heat. The last ship I built, the HMCS Preserver, in a light bulb,
required a great deal of fill. As Sculpey is quite heavy in large
amounts, I mixed vermiculite
and 5 minute epoxy in small batches and filled the bulb to the level I
wanted. Packed well and was a lot lighter. I then put a thin layer of
Sculpey and fashioned the sea. To hide the fill, I soaked the bulb up
to sea level in a glass etching solution. Worked well."
Answer
Jo Ellen,
AO 98 U.S.S. Caloosahatchee was a
fleet oiler, launched in 1945, extensively refitted in the 1960's and
paid off sometime in the 1980's as it is no longer in the navy list. As
the ship is classed as an auxiliary, you will have to look under the
"auxiliary" warship classifications. Pity. Auxiliaries don't have the
glamour of their gun and missile toting cousins so they are usually
overlooked.
The US Naval & Shipbuilding Museum
has over 4500 ships from
The Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships now on-line.
The auxiliary section is rather spotty but they are adding all the
time, if you keep checking back you might eventually find the biography
of the ship. (It's not there yet, I checked.)
As for a photo... Well, that's going to
be more difficult. For starters check the auxiliary section of The NavSource photo
archive. Paul Yarnel has tons of photos of USN ships here and he's
been asking for submissions of photos of auxiliaries. So he might have
a photo. Unfortunately Official Navy sources won't list the ship as it
is no longer in service.
Another thing you might try is a search
using the terms:
"USS Caloosahatchee" + jpg This is the way I search for
material on unknown USN ships. Try this search (as is, no periods
between U.S.S., with quotation marks) on several search engines. (I
regularly use Alta Vista, Google, Hot Bot, Excite, Infoseek, Lycos, Web
Crawler - usually in that order.) Some engines will turn up sites that
others don't find.
Failing that, see if you local library
has a copy of Jane’s Warships - not the small paperback handbooks that
the bookstores carry but the big, heavy, hard-bound blue recognition
manuals that all warships have on the bridge. It will probably be in
reference. You won't find a photo of the ship but you will see a photo
of an identical sister ship.
LATER
"I did as you said and went through the search engines. Yahoo had one
listed where a CD-ROM of AO-oil tankers are pictured. The USS
Caloosahatchee is one of the ships pictured on this cd. Thank you
so very much for your help."
- Jo
Ellen
Answer
Fred,
The best material I've found so far
seems to be a good grade of stiff bond paper. If this is too white, it
is easily tinted. Don Hubbard (see below) suggested coffee. I've used
weak tea and also watery mixes of latex paint. Of course you have to
experiment with the mix to get the right tint. And the sails usually
dry darker. Remember, too, that if there is a watermark in the paper,
cut your sails around it so they don't have the mark on them.
Also remember that the sails have to be
pressed with a clean iron after tinting and drying to take the wrinkles
out. For yachts, I've been using a good grade of onion skin paper which
I color to suit. I'm still experimenting to find a suitable material
for balloon spinnakers. I'm not satisfied with anything I've used so
far. (By the way, if anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to hear.)
As for cloth, I suppose if you were to
use some of the new synthetics you could slice it with a hot knife.
That should handle the edges. But the problem I've always had with
cloth is that the weave - no matter how fine - is seldom to scale.
(Even on large-scale display models it never looks right to my eye.)
And they never seem to hang properly. Always looks as if the ship is
drying her sails.
For filling the sails, starch might work
with cloth. I suppose the only way is to experiment. If the sails are
paper, roll them around a pencil before gluing them to the yard or
gaff. If a paper sail is large and flattens or creases during transit
through the neck you can usually put the belly back in after the masts
are raised by dampening the sail, rolling the bottle on its side,
weighting the sail and leaving it to dry (of course this works best on
fore and aft sails).
As for fastening the sails to the yards,
just use a line of good old carpenter's glue - the white variety as it
doesn't show when it's dry. If there are sail hoops they go on the mast
first. The scale is usually too small to show the sail lashings.
UPDATE 1/11/99 Don Hubbard of
president of the American Ships in Bottle association writes:
"I do remember some Japanese made
balloon sails made by gluing shaped strips together out of very thin
rice or cigarette type paper. They did this using a light bulb as the
base for forming the shape."
Sounds interesting, Don. Might work
nicely for the spinnakers! Have to try it when I have a chance. Thanks.
Answer
Glenn,
First off before you start, I think
you'll have to go "back to school" for a bit and study up on the
subject! :) As you have to learn a few basic skills first. An hour or
two of reading, depending how handy you are, should give them to you.
Then practice makes perfect. I suggest you get a copy of Donald
Hubbard's book (see below) through your bookstore or library.
Now some points that deal specifically
with repairing your ship:
By " snapping the front of the ship" I
assume you mean breaking the bowsprit? If so, this will have to be
replaced before attempting the job as you will never be able to glue it
back together inside the bottle.
I have repaired broken bowsprits (outside
the bottle!) with epoxy and a tiny fish of bamboo let in on the top,
bridging the crack, but I suspect this job is beyond most beginners. So
use a bamboo skewer to fashion a new bowsprit using a sharp pocketknife
and sandpaper. Use the old one as a pattern. Split the bamboo to size
then scrape to shape with the knife and finish in a fold of sandpaper.
Expect to make 2 or 3 before you get one that is suitable. If the
bamboo is too light, darken it with a bit of shoe polish or stain to
match the masts; if the masts are painted, paint to suit.
The lines on which the jibs are fastened
will also have to be replaced - leaving them 14 or 15 inches long
(35-38cm) and tied only to the masts. Fine sewing tread, or fly-tying
thread is best for this. Try to match the original in both size and
color. Once you have them on, re-glue the sails to them. These lines or
stays usually run through holes drilled in the bowsprit and are used to
pull the masts up once the ship is inside the bottle. Then they are
glued, allowed to dry, and the excess cut off.
Hope this helps, Let me know how you make
out.
Answer
Charlene,
The oldest ship in a bottle found so far
was built by Gioni Biondo in 1784 and is in a museum in Lübeck,
Germany. For a photo and more on the history and origin of ships in
bottles see the history page.
Answer
Taras,
The best solution I have found for the
sea is a mixture of putty and artist's oil color (Prussian blue). Very
slow drying, but it's the only way I can get a sea that looks half
decent. I have tried other materials but cannot recommend any one of
them.
As for the suggestions, I recommend the
book Ships-in-Bottles, A Step by Step Guide to a Venerable
Nautical Craft by Donald Hubbard, USN (Ret.)* - perhaps the
best book in print on the subject. The second edition is still in print
and any book store can order it for you. Hubbard also has a very good
chapter on the preparation and scaling of plans for ship bottling. Many
years ago, I began with Don's first edition, then went farther, as I
learned by doing.
* Hubbard, Donald, USN (Ret), Ships-In-Bottles
: A Step-By-Step Guide to a Venerable Nautical Craft, Sea Eagle
Publishing, Coronado, USA, 1988. paperback, 2nd edition (August 1988)
Sea Eagle Pubns; ISBN: 0943665000 Amazon.com has it for $19.95. Or you
can order it directly from Sea
Eagle Publications
Answer
Dave,
Where do you get plans for ships in
bottles? Well, that as they say, is the $64,000 question!
First off, I keep a file drawer full of
ship photos, drawings, and sketches to which I add material
(photocopies, newspaper clippings, magazine articles, etc.) as I find
it. Often it takes years of searching before I turn up enough material
to build a specific model. That aside, here are a few suggestions:
1) Most of the "How-To" books on ships in bottles contain
plans for generic ships designed to fit in bottles.
2) Any of the books on ship design history by that dean of
American Naval Architecture, Howard I. Chapelle (History of American
Sailing Ships; History of American Sailing Navy , etc.) All of
his books are full of plans.
3) Also, many books on nautical history contain plans that
you can easily scale up or down to fit inside a bottle. Search your
library shelves and flip through the books to find them.
4) If you are interested in Yachts, the yachting magazines
publish excellent study plans, which if you use the photos that come
with the article, will produce a very good model. Books show-casing the
works of eminent Naval Architects who specialize in yachts are also
helpful.
5) Books on model ship building often contain plans. Some,
like those of the late Charles G. Davis, have plans in the appendix
(Dover Books has inexpensive reprints of his books).
Answer
Alan,
The plans I used for the Tribal Class, HMCS
Iroquois I
(1942-1963) were a combination of miniature (less than 75 mm)
sketch plans from Jane's Warships and photographs (many, many
photographs!) which are fine for building a seven inch model but would
hardly do for a remote controlled version. For large scale plans I
suggest that you contact VANGUARD MODEL MARINE as they specialize in
Canadian government plans. They should be able to help you as I know
that they were preparing a set of HMCS Haida plans back in
1990. Their address is VANGUARD MODEL MARINE, 2446 Bank Street, Unit
113, Ottawa, Canada KIV 1A4 Catalog $2.00 (A plans list is also
available, I believe, through The Hobby Center Website at:
http://www.hobcen.com )
Question LIGHT
BULBS
"I have done 3 SIB's so far and am
fascinated by the light bulbs. If you don't mind me asking, how do you
get the bulb open and what chemical do you use? I'd really like to try
it. Thanx."
- Blake
Wilkerson, Somewhere, U.S.A.
Answer
Blake,
So you would like to put a ship in a
light bulb! And want to know the chemical you use...
Hate to disappoint you but there is no
magic solvent that dissolves all that gobby cement! I have however
worked out a method that guarantees to get you inside the bulb and I am
sending this by separate e-mail as it is too complicated (for safety
reasons) to summarize in a few words. ( Anyone who wants these
instructions, by the way, is welcome to them; just drop me an e-mail.)
Please remember: Working with light bulbs can be a little
dangerous. Not only are they made of very thin glass, some bulbs are
vacuum sealed while others are pressurized. So when you attempt the job
please wear safety glasses and gloves at ALL times.
I do.
Answer
Scott,
The name of the hobby of putting ships
in bottles? Well, you have me there. Frankly I have never heard of one
(in English or any other language) besides "Ship in Bottling" or
"Bottling Ships". Norwegian seems to come closest with:
Flaskeskuteforeningen - Think this means something
like: Bottle + [something] + engineering but I am not sure.
[ Update:
9/3/99 Ivar Knutsen, of Norway informs me that I am mistaken here.
The correct translations is "The Bottle Ship Society". Oh well, so much
for on-line dictionaries... :) ]
I suppose we could coin our own? (like
Stamp Collecting which is called Philately - lit. "loving" +
"tax exemption" - a pseudo-Greek word coined by a French stamp
collector back in the latter half of the nineteenth century.) How about:
"Ampulnautica" From "Ampulla" (a Roman
flask) + Nautica a from the Latin from the Greek,
"nautilos" - sailor - i.e. "Sailing in a Bottle"?
Comments anyone?
UPDATE, 1/11/99:
HI ! F.Y.I. We at the
SHIPS-IN-BOTTLES ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA INC. and the EUROPEAN
ASSOCIATION OF SHIPS IN BOTTLES call a person that puts ships in
bottles a
"CARAFOLOGIST". I just thought you'd like to know.
- Maurice
Cornelis, South Jersey, U.S.A.
Question HULL
MATERIAL
"What kind of wood do you typically
use for the hulls? For my first couple of ships I followed the
guidelines of a book on the subject (by Joop van Schouten)
which recommended beech. Nice enough, but it seemed difficult to carve
and shape. "
- Mike Imken,
Austin, Texas
Answer
Mike,
What do I use for my hulls? Usually
white pine, pinus strobus - the same material that the World's
Navies once used for making masts. Soft. Easy to carve and sand. But
any soft pine - one of the soft Southern Yellow Pines, for example -
should do. Just make sure the grain is fine and straight and there are
no knots.
In choosing wood practice makes perfect.
Keep your eyes open for scrap wood, too. I've made a few excellent
hulls from old pine, single-glazed window sashes that had the glass
broken out. Sometimes old pine boards yield better wood than you can
find today. Basswood might work but I suspect it might be lacking in
strength when it comes to drilling holes in the bulwarks. Good luck and
happy bottling!
.
If you have any questions or feedback send
a signal my way dsresrch@mail.com
If you do, please remember to tell me where you are writing from. I
like to know where you hail from. :)